Comments on: Update on the EuP process for Directional lamps http://savethebulb.org/update-on-the-eup-process-for-directional-lamps An anti-campaign against the ban of incandescent lamp Wed, 16 May 2012 16:14:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Kevan Shaw http://savethebulb.org/update-on-the-eup-process-for-directional-lamps/comment-page-1#comment-75 Kevan Shaw Tue, 11 May 2010 13:16:34 +0000 http://savethebulb.org/?p=132#comment-75 I am afraid that there is little still around on this. The situation is in flux. The stakeholder process was finished last September and the report with proposals was completed and published <a href="http://www.eup4light.net/default.asp?WebpageId=33" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. The legislation is supposed to be drafted based on this report however the date for this has been delayed every month since October 09 though we are supposed to have the opportunity to comment on the draft before it is submitted to the European Parliament! We wait with baited breath for this! Kevan Shaw I am afraid that there is little still around on this. The situation is in flux. The stakeholder process was finished last September and the report with proposals was completed and published HERE. The legislation is supposed to be drafted based on this report however the date for this has been delayed every month since October 09 though we are supposed to have the opportunity to comment on the draft before it is submitted to the European Parliament! We wait with baited breath for this!

Kevan Shaw

]]> By: Robin http://savethebulb.org/update-on-the-eup-process-for-directional-lamps/comment-page-1#comment-74 Robin Tue, 11 May 2010 12:22:19 +0000 http://savethebulb.org/?p=132#comment-74 Can anyone point me in the right direction to look up all legislation current and legislation to be introduced for directional lighting ? I keep going round in circles and ending back up with non-directional legislation. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Can anyone point me in the right direction to look up all legislation current and legislation to be introduced for directional lighting ?

I keep going round in circles and ending back up with non-directional legislation.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

]]> By: peter dublin http://savethebulb.org/update-on-the-eup-process-for-directional-lamps/comment-page-1#comment-37 peter dublin Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:42:29 +0000 http://savethebulb.org/?p=132#comment-37 Roy see links http://ceolas.net/#li01inx main one http://ec.europa.eu/energy/efficiency/ecodesign/doc/committee/2008_12_08_technical_briefing_household_lamps.pdf = scroll to bottom Roy
see links http://ceolas.net/#li01inx
main one http://ec.europa.eu/energy/efficiency/ecodesign/doc/committee/2008_12_08_technical_briefing_household_lamps.pdf
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]]> By: Roy http://savethebulb.org/update-on-the-eup-process-for-directional-lamps/comment-page-1#comment-35 Roy Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:49:09 +0000 http://savethebulb.org/?p=132#comment-35 Tell me about the wording of EU legislation! Tell me about the wording of EU legislation!

]]> By: Kevan Shaw http://savethebulb.org/update-on-the-eup-process-for-directional-lamps/comment-page-1#comment-19 Kevan Shaw Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:31:13 +0000 http://savethebulb.org/?p=132#comment-19 @ Cernkov, Thank you for your comment. I am but a mere lighting designer and barely equipped to fathom the true meaning behind the wording of specific EU legislation. It seems that logical interpretation does not apply! The basic wording of EuP requires the changes not to have a negative impact on the quality of the products however I and many others maintain that a CFLi is a substantially lower quality product than an incandescent lamp from every factor with the possible exception of energy in use! @ Cernkov,

Thank you for your comment. I am but a mere lighting designer and barely equipped to fathom the true meaning behind the wording of specific EU legislation. It seems that logical interpretation does not apply! The basic wording of EuP requires the changes not to have a negative impact on the quality of the products however I and many others maintain that a CFLi is a substantially lower quality product than an incandescent lamp from every factor with the possible exception of energy in use!

]]> By: Andras Toth http://savethebulb.org/update-on-the-eup-process-for-directional-lamps/comment-page-1#comment-18 Andras Toth Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:00:02 +0000 http://savethebulb.org/?p=132#comment-18 you claim that there will be no more opportunity to provide stakeholder comments on the upcoming legislation on directional lamps, unlike in the case of non-directional household lamps. This is incorrect. The procedure is exactly the same in both cases. After the publication of VITO's chapter 8, comments can be submitted to them in writing until the finalisation of their report. On the basis of their report + the comments received on Chapter 8, the Commission services will establish a working document for stakeholder consultation in the Ecodesign Consultation Forum. It is only after this stakeholder consultation that will we proceed to draft the legislation, have Member States experts vote on it, send it for the scrutiny of the European Parliament and of the Council, and then adopt it (if it does not get stuck in the meantime). Best regards Andras Toth Policy Officer you claim that there will be no more opportunity to provide stakeholder comments on the upcoming legislation on directional lamps, unlike in the case of non-directional household lamps.

This is incorrect. The procedure is exactly the same in both cases. After the publication of VITO’s chapter 8, comments can be submitted to them in writing until the finalisation of their report.

On the basis of their report + the comments received on Chapter 8, the Commission services will establish a working document for stakeholder consultation in the Ecodesign Consultation Forum. It is only after this stakeholder consultation that will we proceed to draft the legislation, have Member States experts vote on it, send it for the scrutiny of the European Parliament and of the Council, and then adopt it (if it does not get stuck in the meantime).

Best regards

Andras Toth
Policy Officer

]]> By: Cerenkov http://savethebulb.org/update-on-the-eup-process-for-directional-lamps/comment-page-1#comment-17 Cerenkov Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:51:18 +0000 http://savethebulb.org/?p=132#comment-17 Don't you think that most of the bulb ban "legis"lation is illegal even within "EU logic" simply because the bans often violate one or more of the criteria specified in Article 15, No. 5 of "DIRECTIVE 2005/32/EC"? Don’t you think that most of the bulb ban “legis”lation is illegal even within “EU logic” simply because the bans often violate one or more of the criteria specified in Article 15, No. 5 of “DIRECTIVE 2005/32/EC”?

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