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	<description>An anti-campaign against the ban of incandescent lamp</description>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://savethebulb.org/all-quiet-on-the-lightbulb-front/comment-page-1#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Ruth
also Canadian studies re increase of emissions when 
electricty is emission free but heating sources are not
http://ceolas.net/#li6x
There&#039;s also a study involving BC Hydro you can search online</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Ruth<br />
also Canadian studies re increase of emissions when<br />
electricty is emission free but heating sources are not<br />
<a href="http://ceolas.net/#li6x" rel="nofollow">http://ceolas.net/#li6x</a><br />
There&#8217;s also a study involving BC Hydro you can search online</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Adams</title>
		<link>http://savethebulb.org/all-quiet-on-the-lightbulb-front/comment-page-1#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 04:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; i am working with Halldor to provide an edited version of the paper for publication here and elsewhere.&quot;

Any update on the progress?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; i am working with Halldor to provide an edited version of the paper for publication here and elsewhere.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any update on the progress?</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Adams</title>
		<link>http://savethebulb.org/all-quiet-on-the-lightbulb-front/comment-page-1#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 08:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;proposed ban on incandescent lamps in Iceland and substantially proves that a change to CFLi will produce a net increase in CO2 emissions attributable to the change over rather than  savings&quot;

I am looking forward to know more about that as well. Is consuming less electricity worth the additional CO2 emission?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;proposed ban on incandescent lamps in Iceland and substantially proves that a change to CFLi will produce a net increase in CO2 emissions attributable to the change over rather than  savings&#8221;</p>
<p>I am looking forward to know more about that as well. Is consuming less electricity worth the additional CO2 emission?</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://savethebulb.org/all-quiet-on-the-lightbulb-front/comment-page-1#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will look forward to the talk posting,
and Halldors work

I was communicating with a  Finnish State TV commentator 
a while back about  an EU light bulb ban critical  programme he was doing
It turned out pretty good (of course!) though he had little time to take up all my suggestions
It reflects what Halldor will likely say too about CO2 emissions

(edited from the English transcript of a Finnish TV programme October 26 2009, questioning the savings reasons for a ban)

http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/mot/arkisto/mot_hehkulampun_hautajaiset/transcript_english/



Professor Matti Lehtonen and his research team at the Helsinki University of Technology&#039;s Department of Electrical Engineering wanted to find out how people adjust their home energy consumption if incandescent light bulbs are replaced by CFLs.
Matti Lehtonen estimates that about 80, maybe even 90 per cent of an incandescent lamp&#039;s &quot;wasted heat&quot; can be captured for heating, if it&#039;s in an insulated room.
Lehtonen&#039;s team figured out how much extra heating energy is needed to replace the wasted heat from incandescent light bulbs after they have been replaced by CFLs. The team was particularly interested in how much effect the switch has on carbon dioxide emissions.
The results might seem surprising.
Lehtonen: &quot;If you have a house with electric heating, the climate benefit is going to be very small.
More or less the same energy is then used to heat the radiators.
And if your house is heated with oil, and we calculate the climate impact of the change, with a conventional electricity generating mix [to power the lighting], we get an increase in carbon dioxide emissions.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will look forward to the talk posting,<br />
and Halldors work</p>
<p>I was communicating with a  Finnish State TV commentator<br />
a while back about  an EU light bulb ban critical  programme he was doing<br />
It turned out pretty good (of course!) though he had little time to take up all my suggestions<br />
It reflects what Halldor will likely say too about CO2 emissions</p>
<p>(edited from the English transcript of a Finnish TV programme October 26 2009, questioning the savings reasons for a ban)</p>
<p><a href="http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/mot/arkisto/mot_hehkulampun_hautajaiset/transcript_english/" rel="nofollow">http://ohjelmat.yle.fi/mot/arkisto/mot_hehkulampun_hautajaiset/transcript_english/</a></p>
<p>Professor Matti Lehtonen and his research team at the Helsinki University of Technology&#8217;s Department of Electrical Engineering wanted to find out how people adjust their home energy consumption if incandescent light bulbs are replaced by CFLs.<br />
Matti Lehtonen estimates that about 80, maybe even 90 per cent of an incandescent lamp&#8217;s &#8220;wasted heat&#8221; can be captured for heating, if it&#8217;s in an insulated room.<br />
Lehtonen&#8217;s team figured out how much extra heating energy is needed to replace the wasted heat from incandescent light bulbs after they have been replaced by CFLs. The team was particularly interested in how much effect the switch has on carbon dioxide emissions.<br />
The results might seem surprising.<br />
Lehtonen: &#8220;If you have a house with electric heating, the climate benefit is going to be very small.<br />
More or less the same energy is then used to heat the radiators.<br />
And if your house is heated with oil, and we calculate the climate impact of the change, with a conventional electricity generating mix [to power the lighting], we get an increase in carbon dioxide emissions.&#8221;</p>
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